Why Do Motorcycle Riders Brag About "Freedom"?

Everyone knows that "Motorcycle" is synonymous with "Freedom" ... but why? Motorbikes have the same dynamics as bicycles and go to the same places as cars - what's so free about that?

Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: frt9.co/pki2ox
Fair warning - this is a challenging read. Asking what makes freedom "free" is child's play compared to Pirsig's query: what makes good "good"? Fascinating!

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  1. Izhaaq 996

    Izhaaq 996Πριν 41 λεπτό

    Wise words

  2. James Mcguinness

    James McguinnessΠριν 6 ώρες

    Always feel like it's just Americans that bang on about freedom everywhere else just looks at them as another form of transport that has cheaper insurance, road tax and petrol (gas).

  3. Michael Centner

    Michael CentnerΠριν 7 ώρες

    Don’t want a frame, buy a convertible.

  4. Richard

    RichardΠριν 9 ώρες

    This channel is the "Top gear" of motorcycles, when Top gear was hoted by Richard, Jeremy and James of course.

  5. Sagacious Eagle

    Sagacious EagleΠριν 10 ώρες

    Short answer, no frame.

  6. Ken Deater

    Ken DeaterΠριν 13 ώρες

    We need a 20/30 minute version of this! Thanks Fort 9, you never disappoint!

  7. Steven Evidente

    Steven EvidenteΠριν 23 ώρες

    Happy? Just ride. Sad? Just ride. Angry? Just ride (to cool off, not to look for a fight). It might be a cliche, but in travelling on a motorcycle, its always about the journey, not the destination.

  8. Noah McNeill

    Noah McNeillΠριν ημέρα

    Motorcyclists are keenly aware of the risk/reward paradigm every time they throw a leg over a bike. They acutely understand that to feel alive, to be free, one must acknowledge tangible dangers and take them head on. Only through embracing risk in the pursuit of something better, can we ever know what achievement, purpose, or joy feels like. Tell that to someone in the era of COVID.

  9. Tony Rule

    Tony RuleΠριν ημέρα

    Top quality, as always.

  10. glen wallace

    glen wallaceΠριν ημέρα

    Zen and the art is one of the hardest books I ever read, but also the best. It was more about 'Quality' that motorcycles though. I still think of how PIRSIG did oil changes: Park in a dirt lot, pull the oil plug, put the plug back in and fill 'er up.

  11. Double Clutch Auto Reviews

    Double Clutch Auto ReviewsΠριν ημέρα

    At 2:15 is when I felt like your words really hit me... Our focus is honed in on the stimulation of riding, with no room for all of the nonsense distractions like FB that we have today. We are one with our bikes, as the bike needs our full attention and physical inputs to control it properly. We are wielding a machine that can outperform supercars at 1/100th of the cost.... And we are experiencing all of this in a REAL moment ourselves in our own lives. Very well said as always RF9.

  12. T h o m a s

    T h o m a sΠριν 2 ημέρες

    Dude WHAT song song name at the end

  13. METALLHAUS

    METALLHAUSΠριν 2 ημέρες

    Song at the end: grlifes.info/number/tmC6fqSvmMu-lcs/b-nteo Youre welcome ;)

  14. Moto Minimalist

    Moto MinimalistΠριν 2 ημέρες

    FortNine is freedom, from hum drum boring motorcycle videos. As always, outstanding.

  15. dylawn55

    dylawn55Πριν 2 ημέρες

    That book sucks major ass. Tried several times to read it but he just rambles and incessantly complains. Can't do it. Rubbish, imho

  16. 2007crf450r

    2007crf450rΠριν 2 ημέρες

    exactly what i feel like when i jump on my street glide FREEDOM

  17. panos hanis

    panos hanisΠριν 3 ημέρες

    Damn bro thats nice

  18. Panagiotis Bakatselos

    Panagiotis BakatselosΠριν 3 ημέρες

    excellent!

  19. sandakureva

    sandakurevaΠριν 3 ημέρες

    I think it's mostly because I can go anywhere, faster than most people, and for a fraction of the cost. You'll spend 300-500 on a one-way trip from where I live to visit my family in OKC in a car... or way less on my motorcycle because it gets 55-60mpg.

  20. R N Kader

    R N KaderΠριν 3 ημέρες

    Right On! Right On! Right On! RyanF9

  21. K Minaya

    K MinayaΠριν 3 ημέρες

    I'm in NYC and I brag about parking. Something happens to you when you come back from a ride and you see the same spot open. Do you park? no you just keep on riding. Then a smart car takes your spot.

  22. Gacheru Mburu

    Gacheru MburuΠριν 5 ημέρες

    👍

  23. Johny40Se7en

    Johny40Se7enΠριν 6 ημέρες

    You've got such a gift for making well thought out and mentally stimulating videos. That segways straight into why many people say that motorcycling is freedom. Compared with driving 4 wheeled vehicles, riding a motorbike is fully engaging. You're in the moment, and involved completely in what you're doing, whilst amongst the elements. No major distractions., and the minor ones have to be kept in check too, or you'll hear that age old story of "had to lay her down", or they'll be blind dating bushes or trees 😅😂

  24. zottejakke3

    zottejakke3Πριν 6 ημέρες

    @FortNine Check Fred Feldman's chapter in Rollin, B. E., Pineo, C., Gray, C. M., & Mommer, K. (Eds.). (2006). Harley-Davidson and Philosophy: Full-throttle Aristotle. Open Court Publishing. It delves deeper into your starting argument, but is skeptical of this kind of 'phenomenological' freedom you turn towards :)

  25. David Stead

    David SteadΠριν 6 ημέρες

    Brilliant. I've been meditating for many years. Riding is meditation. Forced focus. You nailed it. "Ommmmm...........mmmmygodimgoing180!"

  26. Chege Duncan

    Chege DuncanΠριν 7 ημέρες

    Come to Nairobi, In peak traffic, a 30 mins motorbike ride is easily 3 hours in traffic in a car... motorbikes are freedom... 4 hour longer trips out of town drop to hours on a bike... that is freedom ...

  27. Avramm 96

    Avramm 96Πριν 7 ημέρες

    These guys' videos are on a whole different level. Congratulations.

  28. Brad M.

    Brad M.Πριν 7 ημέρες

    I came here for the eagle screech and was not disappointed.

  29. Alex Loredo

    Alex LoredoΠριν 7 ημέρες

    Man this is gold.. that end..

  30. Jose DeJesus

    Jose DeJesusΠριν 8 ημέρες

    Just had my bike stolen 2 months ago and damn do I miss her

  31. Jordan stalheim

    Jordan stalheimΠριν 8 ημέρες

    Do the pan America

  32. Brett Middleton

    Brett MiddletonΠριν 8 ημέρες

    Do one about why we like to take turns at 100+mph. I like that little rush it makes me feel, to look left and see asphalt flying past my face

  33. Joseph Melia

    Joseph MeliaΠριν 8 ημέρες

    Ryan is king of motorcycle philosophers. Motorcycle emptiness? Not with Fortnine.

  34. Muhammad Adri mhd nazri

    Muhammad Adri mhd nazriΠριν 8 ημέρες

    your video is awesome man!

  35. Jochen Stacker

    Jochen StackerΠριν 8 ημέρες

    2:30 if the frame is gone on your bike, you shouldn't be riding it anymore. :p

  36. The antisocial 1

    The antisocial 1Πριν 8 ημέρες

    Freedom is the right of all sentient beings...

  37. Zen and two wheels

    Zen and two wheelsΠριν 8 ημέρες

    AMEN! like this one...Best way to stay mentally healthy...

  38. Jerimah Noonan

    Jerimah NoonanΠριν 9 ημέρες

    I come here for the biting sarcasm....nothing more.

  39. Flechette

    FlechetteΠριν 9 ημέρες

    I bought a pretty expensive helmet that I can hook up to the GPS, radio and make phone calls through my smart phone. I have noticed that I just turn it off when I go for a ride.

  40. FatStogie

    FatStogieΠριν 9 ημέρες

    This is like a Pink Floyd song that’s ends too soon, left you wanting more. Great video as always.

  41. Tito B.A.

    Tito B.A.Πριν 10 ημέρες

    I don't tell people why I like motorcycles, but in reality it's because I go from 0-60 in 4 seconds on the cheap. The rest is just an excuse.

  42. Bruce Wayne

    Bruce WayneΠριν 10 ημέρες

    "Because, freedom." *eagle screeches* .... *instantly likes*

  43. Ruacasa

    RuacasaΠριν 10 ημέρες

    Worthy of Pirsig references. Well done. Really enjoyed that.

  44. Gil Garcia

    Gil GarciaΠριν 10 ημέρες

    I don't understand how anyone can disagree with this definition.....197 dislikes.....they must be all from Alaska......

  45. yancy westgate

    yancy westgateΠριν 11 ημέρες

    Speaking of obese dirt bikes. when you gonna tell us about the Pan Am?

  46. Abdul Hameed Khan

    Abdul Hameed KhanΠριν 11 ημέρες

    Freedom of motorcycling in India.. grlifes.info/number/mmmXo6ybpZizmqk/b-nteo

  47. Adrian Rainbow

    Adrian RainbowΠριν 11 ημέρες

    LOL, absolutely nailed it. Freedom is putting yourself in a situation where you have no time to consider, anything else.

  48. Zane Blaire

    Zane BlaireΠριν 11 ημέρες

    Motorcycle riders are almost exclusively egotistical and narcissistic. That's why.

  49. Tyrone Vince Tamayo

    Tyrone Vince TamayoΠριν 11 ημέρες

    Every time I watch F9, I feel like I'm watching a movie.

  50. Alan Lee

    Alan LeeΠριν 6 ώρες

    For something as transient (however worthy) as these videos, the production values are high.

  51. D. C.

    D. C.Πριν 11 ημέρες

    .....Freedom is the only way yeah!!!!....

  52. Gussacci

    GussacciΠριν 11 ημέρες

    Well said💯💥🔥💭✌🏽

  53. stuntmonkey00

    stuntmonkey00Πριν 12 ημέρες

    "Obese dirt bike with a motor from 2006." Ryan endearing himself to BMW as usual lol.

  54. Robert Ferguson

    Robert FergusonΠριν 12 ημέρες

    I have a request for some information as you guys make the best biking videos I know of.... Are maxi scooters worth thinking about for all round use nowadays? Low maintenance, storage space, economy and power?? Help!!!

  55. there can be only one Chris

    there can be only one ChrisΠριν 12 ημέρες

    Wow! Great vid

  56. bikebudha01

    bikebudha01Πριν 12 ημέρες

    Deep. So Deep. Not exactly sure what it's Deep of, sniff sniff, but I have a good idea...

  57. Ian Jones

    Ian JonesΠριν 12 ημέρες

    Love F9 but vids are getting way too short...has Ryan got a new hobby 😁

  58. steelbride74

    steelbride74Πριν 12 ημέρες

    I am your greatest fan, just sorry for not being able to send messages 👍

  59. Informal OCD

    Informal OCDΠριν 12 ημέρες

    The commonly dismissed bicycle is all of these things & so much more. Half the old men I ride mountain bikes with, used to race motocross and have come around to this conclusion ;)

  60. Unlike U

    Unlike UΠριν 12 ημέρες

    The longest 3:32 of my life

  61. Mannix

    MannixΠριν 12 ημέρες

    Great vid! Good job guys! 👍👍

  62. Oz Sawdust Makers

    Oz Sawdust MakersΠριν 12 ημέρες

    bloody hell you are great F9. From a fellow 2 wheel Ryan in another hemisphere.

  63. LazyJack2003

    LazyJack2003Πριν 12 ημέρες

    I thought the 2nd amendment is there to ensure freedom?! Ah, that´s just for the weird US ... Ryan, this short clip was like a breath of fresh air and a long body stretch! So now I get on my bike - and just go somewhere. With a big smile on my face.

  64. James George

    James GeorgeΠριν 13 ημέρες

    "Screw it, lets ride" is the cheapest therapy going in my book.

  65. crocketgsxr6

    crocketgsxr6Πριν 13 ημέρες

    the freedom to let it sit in my garage unused for 8 months out of the year

  66. ST V

    ST VΠριν 13 ημέρες

    no windshield, and no full face helmet for me, thanx. Amen. ;-)

  67. genw3st

    genw3stΠριν 13 ημέρες

    I've watched this video no fewer than 10 times over the past couple of weeks. The video is so beautiful, so philosophical, so poetic; it perfectly captures the freedom that we all feel out there. Thanks, guys. Great work, indeed.

  68. Ben Harvey

    Ben HarveyΠριν 13 ημέρες

    Where can I get a Pirsig jacket?

  69. Damianos 980

    Damianos 980Πριν 13 ημέρες

    Enduro is freedom

  70. nickie banchou

    nickie banchouΠριν 13 ημέρες

    some people say freedom is riding on 2 wheels and feeling the world around you some people say freedom is not having to gear up head to toe and hop in a miata i have both, i'm not buying any pseudo esoteric excuse that gives either "moar freedum"

  71. Phil.i.P

    Phil.i.PΠριν 13 ημέρες

    Yes. Yes. Yes. Short. Sweet. Perfect 👍🏻👏🏻🙏🏻

  72. Michael R

    Michael RΠριν 13 ημέρες

    All my bones are going to be framed in casts after I go down on a motorcycle 😭

  73. Leo Girardi

    Leo GirardiΠριν 13 ημέρες

    I wonder if the person jogging their dog at the end was also doing a "freedom" video?

  74. Christopher Ng'ang'a

    Christopher Ng'ang'aΠριν 13 ημέρες

    This... this has got to be my moat favourite bike video ever

  75. osgnuru

    osgnuruΠριν 13 ημέρες

    This is a brilliant video. No frame, that is it, exactly.

  76. Roger Garcia

    Roger GarciaΠριν 13 ημέρες

    Very creative and true! Freedom 🏍

  77. Blackviking Price

    Blackviking PriceΠριν 13 ημέρες

    well put

  78. W Browser

    W BrowserΠριν 14 ημέρες

    incredible content

  79. Alejandro Caporaletti

    Alejandro CaporalettiΠριν 14 ημέρες

    In an open Jeep you don't have a frame either...ahah. Excelent video, as allways. Thanks.

  80. Webist K

    Webist KΠριν 14 ημέρες

    Domestication Resistant

  81. HSD

    HSDΠριν 14 ημέρες

    Love the short video series. Keep em coming

  82. HSM

    HSMΠριν 14 ημέρες

    Can we talk about the growth in the writing of this channel? This vid is essentially an re-upload of a vlog from a few years ago. Even uses some of the same argumentation. ("Han dynasty peasant," for example.) But holy jumpins, Ryan has grown as a rhetorician. The structure and symmetry of presentation, the use of writing devices and the brash willingness to walk the line between everyman jargon and $10 words. 36 seconds in the video and I was blown away. This channel's writing consistently makes me feel inspired. It's passionate, and educational, too. Not only about motorcycles and the nature of people who make them and ride them, but about the English language itself. I discovered this channel a little over a month ago and watched nearly every video in a span of 7 days, spurred on by the polyamorous marriage of fantastic writing, impactful cinematography, and content that has something to say. It is truly incredible to see the melding of the visions of the F9 director/editor, and its presenter. The camera work is intentional and novel. I sense a spirit of respect and friendship between the two partners, and I love the spirit of collaboration and creativity. Hell, I've even taken to watching these videos before writing an essay for university, because I find them so linguistically rich, they inspire me to go off and compose my own ideas. They've introduced me to so many aspects of motorcycling, from the community, to safety, to combustion engine ins and outs, to where the rubber meets the road with any given cycle they review. -I mean, how cool is it to have a motorcycle review talking about S curves and the nature of beauty? I love that reviews almost always come down to how the cycle will be functionally used. They feel explored, not summarized, shown, not told. And if a Review critique comes down to a cliché, they earn it! They don't just state the cliché, they almost show how the cliché became a cliché by demonstrating it through the bike the happen to be riding. In case there was any doubt to those involved with the making of this show, the effort and tight writing of the F9 GRlifes series pays off. It has earned my views. A catchy headline may have been the reason I first clicked on a video, but great, educational, passionate, art was the reason I kept watching. It is the reason I continue to watch. I'm grateful this for novel little show F9 has allowed to grow here, and the fantastic work of the creative staff over the years. Personally, I hope they keep it up.

  83. Sir Bedevere

    Sir BedevereΠριν 14 ημέρες

    Converting your dual sport to a feather weight adventure bike opens up the world better than any other motorcycle.

  84. Eric Weber

    Eric WeberΠριν 14 ημέρες

    This is why I keep coming back, Ryan! This was perfect.

  85. Durox Kilo

    Durox KiloΠριν 15 ημέρες

    i'd argue that today's connectivity has rather widened our experience and our views are being updated faster than anytime in our existence. our species kind of developed and figured out the social norms in rather small groups often times in literal caves.. *in 10 days 360k ppl watched a guy talk philosophy on a motorcycle channel. how long did it take Plato to reach this sort of audience penetration? :} ** Plato would definitely have a twitter account let's be real.

  86. Rexie 100

    Rexie 100Πριν 15 ημέρες

    Hi Ryan, I would like to use your name on my channel..I just want to tell my viewers that you are my inspiration..I don't have a lot of views but ....I don't want any products or anything to be sponsored....I just want to tell that you are my inspiration..can I??

  87. James Henckel

    James HenckelΠριν 15 ημέρες

    someone forgot to plug in the mic in the out door parts, lol

  88. Alis R

    Alis RΠριν 15 ημέρες

    It was the 'best 'selling' philosophy book because it had motorcycle in the title...lol. The book was annoying twaddle :)

  89. thyron

    thyronΠριν 15 ημέρες

    That Nemo patch is the coolest thing I've ever seen

  90. jsprite123

    jsprite123Πριν 16 ημέρες

    "Freedom" is an over-used word shoved down the throats of Americans throughout their lives to justify things , both good and wrong, that the (federal) government has done and continues doing.

  91. The Pidgeon’s Forge

    The Pidgeon’s ForgeΠριν 16 ημέρες

    Consider checking out a couple books by Melissa Holbrook Pierson.. “The Perfect Vehicle” and “The Man Who Would Stop At Nothing: Long Distance Motorcycling’s Endless Road” both are pretty great tomes about the “WHY” of this thing we do...

  92. MikSane

    MikSaneΠριν 16 ημέρες

    i FUCKING love these videos

  93. Julian P

    Julian PΠριν 16 ημέρες

    This one hit hard.

  94. Private Nemesis

    Private NemesisΠριν 16 ημέρες

    Fantastic Ryan!

  95. Jacob Chizek

    Jacob ChizekΠριν 16 ημέρες

    Good stuff

  96. Diesel Ramcharger

    Diesel RamchargerΠριν 16 ημέρες

    people who ride on the street are posers. sorry about your luck.

  97. dry509

    dry509Πριν 16 ημέρες

    What are you riding in this video?

  98. dry509

    dry509Πριν 16 ημέρες

    Hello. You have some good insights. I have riding experience. Can you guide me to which is a good well designed motorcycle and worth the money. I am looking for something to ride around on for fun. Right now no adventure riding. Just go out to the garage, hop on a bike, and go for a ride for fun. Can be any displacement engine. I am 6 feet, 215 lbs without gear, and 30 inch inseam if it matters, and I am in the USA. Thanks in advance.

  99. tree the traveller

    tree the travellerΠριν 16 ημέρες

    Wind in my hair I feel part of everywhere

  100. Etienne E

    Etienne EΠριν 16 ημέρες

    The diversity of his vids is one of the reasons I keep coming back.

  101. Jack Dawson Anderson

    Jack Dawson AndersonΠριν 16 ημέρες

    I feel free watching this